McCarthy speaks amid no signs of progress in talks to avoid default

After three weeks of negotiations and eight days from a possible default, as of Wednesday morning there was still no breakthrough in talks to avert a potential financial catastrophe as soon as June 1.

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy was scheduled to speak to reporters at 11:45 a.m. but what he would say was unclear.

Earlier, as McCarthy made his way into the Capitol, ABC News Senior Congressional Correspondent Rachel Scott asked him where things stand.

"I still feel they're productive — the talks," he said, but there were no signs of a deal.

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy speaks with reporters as he arrives for the day in the midst of ongoing negotiations seeking a deal to raise the United States’ debt ceiling and avoid a catastrophic default, at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C., May 24, 2023.Jonathan Ernst/Reuters

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In fact, McCarthy said he has not spoken to President Joe Biden since Monday.

Both sides appear to be waiting for the other to blink.

"I'm hopeful that they come back that they realize what the American public is telling them as well, that you cannot have the highest percentage of debt and spend the most amount of money while you're getting the most amount of revenue in, that you got to change that behavior, just like you would do in any household," McCarthy said. "And I'm hopeful as they come, if they come back today that they realize that."

Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy speaks to reporters at the Capitol in Washington, D.C., amidst ongoing debt ceiling negotiations, May 24, 2023.J. Scott Applewhite/AP

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In the meantime, a source familiar with the talks said staff-level negotiations on Wednesday would resume at noon — but at the White House instead of at the Capitol.

As the standoff over federal spending continued, the White House has offered to freeze spending while Republicans are demanding deep cuts, according to a source familiar with the discussions.

"Well, the point you have to make, here we are eight days away. Why are we here? The Democrats do not want to come off their spending addiction," McCarthy said.

Asked how much in federal spending Republicans want to cut, he said, "Well, that's part of negotiation. Democrats don't even want to spend less, they want to spend more, that's unreasonable," he said.

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He again made it clear increasing tax revenue is not on the table.

"Find ways to eliminate the waste. And that's what we've been doing. That's why on February 1, I sat with the president. That's exactly what I said to him. We can't raise taxes, and what's he talking about now? We need to raise more because I want to spend more after you've already done that, you set all the records you want to set, once the Democrats took the majority, this is what they brought us. And in doing so they brought us inflation, hurting every family," he said

President Joe Biden listens as he meets with House Speaker Kevin McCarthy of Calif., to discuss the debt limit in the Oval Office of the White House, May 22, 2023.Alex Brandon/AP

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Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen on Wednesday tripled down on her warnings that June 1 might be the day the U.S. could default on its debt, even, she said, if it's "hard to be precise" about what happens around that date.

Yellen, speaking at a Wall Street Journal forum, was reluctant to discuss a "day-after" scenario in the wake of a U.S. default but allowed that Treasury would have to be ready to prioritize some bills over others.

She said payment prioritization is "not operationally feasible" — emphasizing how unprecedented a default would be.

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