A former intelligence community official testified Wednesday on an alleged covert government program to recover and reverse engineer crashed alien spacecraft.
David Grusch, a member of a previous Pentagon office tasked with investigating unidentified aerial phenomena, or UAPs, said he was informed of the alleged multi-decade program through his official duties, but was denied access to additional information.
The Pentagon said last month it hadn't found "any verifiable information to substantiate" the claims about crashed alien spacecraft.
"My testimony is based on information I've been given by individuals with a long-standing track record of legitimacy and service to this country, many of whom have shared compelling evidence in the form of photography, official documentation and classified oral testimony to myself and many various colleagues," Grusch told lawmakers, stating he was driven to share it by a "commitment to truth and transparency."
"I am asking Congress to hold our government to this standard and thoroughly investigate these claims," he said. "But as I stand here under oath now I am speaking to the facts as I have been told them."
David Grusch is sworn-in during a House Oversight Committee hearing “Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency,” July 26, 2023, in Washington.Drew Angerer/Getty Images
The remarks came during a bipartisan hearing held by the House Oversight Committee's national security subcommittee. The three witnesses include Grusch, David Fravor, a former commanding officer in the U.S. Navy, and Ryan Graves, executive director of Americans for Safe Aerospace.
In opening remarks, members of both parties stressed the need for greater clarity on UAPs.
"Today we are not just debating the existence of UAPs, we are deliberating on the principles that define our republic, which is a commitment to transparency and accountability," said Rep. Glenn Grothman, R-Wisc., who chaired the hearing.
Grusch asserted the U.S. government first became aware of non-human intelligence in the 1930s. When asked by Rep. Jared Moskowitz, D-Fla., if he has met people with direct knowledge of non-human-origin craft, Grusch said yes.
However, he told the committee he could not publicly disclose the names of those with firsthand knowledge and access to the alleged crash retrieval program, though he said that information was provided to the intelligence committees and the inspector general.
Grusch also said he couldn't publicly state when the supposed program began and who authorized it.
Later on in the hearing, when asked who the committee should call to testify in their next hearing, Grusch said he could provide a "cooperative and hostile list of individuals in the government who you should talk to."
Ryan Graves, David Grusch, and David Fravor attend the House Oversight & Accountability Committee’s National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs Subcommittee’s hearing on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena on July 26, 2023, in Washington.Elizabeth Frantz/Reuters
Rep. Virginia Foxx, R-N.C., highlighted previous congressional testimony provided by Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, who leads the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office tasked with examining UAPs, in which he said they did not find any evidence of extraterrestrial activity or off-world technology.
"This contradiction is a perfect example of why we need to inject transparency into our government," Foxx said.
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